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Vegas hotels/casinos now assuming law enforcement functions regarding weapons?

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Before I posted this YouTube vid, I looked for a similar video James Reeves did over at THE FIREARMS BLOG about the harassment he got trying to comply with his pistol at the last Shot Show. It seems TFB has since taken it down. I'm guessing that they might have disputed what happened and perhaps legal action was threatened. I don't know. It's just gone, as if it never existed. But the upshot was that there seems to be a sudden and significant shift with Vegas hotels and casinos now regarding guests who possess weapons. No doubt there are law suits flying about since the wacko shot up the concert back in 2017. Is that what is causing this new trend?



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Perhaps you could provide a summation here? Those 18 mins are a lot of time to invest, LOL.

If it's private-property, and they have policies posted (somewhere), they are likely within their rights, no matter how egregious the conduct. Our Constitutional protections apply to the Gov't and their agents, not private folks. (For example, how bail bond agents work).
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The TFB TV basically was the hassle of the hotel policy regarding firearms and how pointless it was. James Reeves was in town for the Shot show - and was the only one in his group that had his carry gun in luggage.

The rest of his crew were carrying concealed. Basically they had zero issue - got to the rooms, no one was none the wiser.

I guess the hotel x-ray/checks/scans the luggage when it is ferried to the room somehow and detected his pistol in it's box or whatever.

They then confiscated it, and force him to undergo a check in / check out procedure that required multiple people, armed security, multiple trips to the vault, and upwards of an hour to retrieve his firearm. Whereas if he just had it on him - none of this would have happened. It was such a hassle of process he forewent carrying the entire trip, and because the retrieval was so inefficient, unorganized, and frankly B.S. he nearly missed his flight despite starting the process with an allotted half hour or so to do it (it took way longer.)

The moral of the story was - conceal carry because you can't trust idiots to make a process that is efficient and intelligent when it comes to the damn, dirty, evil guns.

He probably had to pull the video due to the pushback from the hotel - for illuminating the absolute clusterf*ck it was. Considering the amount of business the shot show attracts I am sure the venue / hotel was pretty p*ssed at looking like the dumbasses they were.
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paulgt2164 wrote: September 20th, 2022, 11:30 am The TFB TV basically was the hassle of the hotel policy regarding firearms and how pointless it was. James Reeves was in town for the Shot show - and was the only one in his group that had his carry gun in luggage.

The rest of his crew were carrying concealed. Basically they had zero issue - got to the rooms, no one was none the wiser.

I guess the hotel x-ray/checks/scans the luggage when it is ferried to the room somehow and detected his pistol in it's box or whatever.

They then confiscated it, and force him to undergo a check in / check out procedure that required multiple people, armed security, multiple trips to the vault, and upwards of an hour to retrieve his firearm. Whereas if he just had it on him - none of this would have happened. It was such a hassle of process he forewent carrying the entire trip, and because the retrieval was so inefficient, unorganized, and frankly B.S. he nearly missed his flight despite starting the process with an allotted half hour or so to do it (it took way longer.)

The moral of the story was - conceal carry because you can't trust idiots to make a process that is efficient and intelligent when it comes to the damn, dirty, evil guns.

He probably had to pull the video due to the pushback from the hotel - for illuminating the absolute clusterf*ck it was. Considering the amount of business the shot show attracts I am sure the venue / hotel was pretty p*ssed at looking like the dumbasses they were.

And the point of it all is;...under no circumstances EVER let the hotel know a damned thing about you being armed.
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Exactly. I will expand that to basically include "under no circumstances ever let *anyone* know a damned thing about you being armed. Lol
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NRS 118A.330  Landlord’s access to dwelling unit.

1.  A tenant shall not unreasonably withhold consent for the landlord peaceably to enter into the dwelling unit to:

(a) Inspect the premises;

(b) Make necessary or agreed repairs, decorating, alterations or improvements;

(c) Supply necessary or agreed services; or

(d) Exhibit the dwelling unit to prospective or actual purchasers, mortgagees, tenants, workers, contractors or other persons with a bona fide interest in inspecting the premises.

2.  The landlord may enter the dwelling unit without consent of the tenant in case of emergency.

3.  The landlord shall not abuse the right of access or use it to harass the tenant. Except in case of emergency, the landlord shall give the tenant at least 24 hours’ notice of intent to enter and may enter only at reasonable times during normal business hours unless the tenant expressly consents to shorter notice or to entry during nonbusiness hours with respect to the particular entry.

4.  The landlord has no other right of access except:

(a) Pursuant to court order;

(b) Where the tenant has abandoned or surrendered the premises; or

(c) Where permitted under NRS 118A.440.


(Added to NRS by 1977, 1337)


https://www.leg.state.nv.us/nrs/nrs-118 ... 118ASec330


If they look, they may find some way to sue them for harassment or even discrimination. Not sure if it was in the small print they signed when they checked in for this sort of thing.

Have a great, gun carryin', Kenpo day

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Even if they didn't sign something, good luck suing over that. Pretty sure Vega's legal system isn't too concerned about some random youtuber crying about it being a total unnecessary pain in the ass to get his gun out of lockup.

The TFBtv's video , James Reeves is an actual attorney (and the attorney for his state for a couple carry/gun insurance plans) and he didn't seem to find it worth pursuing so that probably tells us what we need to know.

I dislike the sh*tshow that is vegas, and the videos popping up about this stuff is just another item on a long list of why I dislike the place.

Hell, the last time I was there I was sexually assaulted by an elderly (70s) woman. Her boyfriend was the bride's dad and while we were all standing for the group picture the old hag shoved her hand/arm down the back of my pants and grabbed a handful of my low-hanging fruit. Wife thought it was hilarious, bride was appalled. The resulting scene between the dad and the g/f ended up with cops being called.
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paulgt2164 wrote: September 20th, 2022, 6:34 pm Even if they didn't sign something, good luck suing over that. Pretty sure Vega's legal system isn't too concerned about some random youtuber crying about it being a total unnecessary pain in the ass to get his gun out of lockup.

The TFBtv's video , James Reeves is an actual attorney (and the attorney for his state for a couple carry/gun insurance plans) and he didn't seem to find it worth pursuing so that probably tells us what we need to know.

I dislike the sh*tshow that is vegas, and the videos popping up about this stuff is just another item on a long list of why I dislike the place.

Hell, the last time I was there I was sexually assaulted by an elderly (70s) woman. Her boyfriend was the bride's dad and while we were all standing for the group picture the old hag shoved her hand/arm down the back of my pants and grabbed a handful of my low-hanging fruit. Wife thought it was hilarious, bride was appalled. The resulting scene between the dad and the g/f ended up with cops being called.
hey now, what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas, man, you just ruined my opinion of the joint, i'm so disappointed, :dance:
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kenpoprofessor wrote: September 20th, 2022, 3:37 pm NRS 118A.330  Landlord’s access to dwelling unit.

1.  A tenant shall not unreasonably withhold consent for the landlord peaceably to enter into the dwelling unit to:

(a) Inspect the premises;

(b) Make necessary or agreed repairs, decorating, alterations or improvements;

(c) Supply necessary or agreed services; or

(d) Exhibit the dwelling unit to prospective or actual purchasers, mortgagees, tenants, workers, contractors or other persons with a bona fide interest in inspecting the premises.

2.  The landlord may enter the dwelling unit without consent of the tenant in case of emergency.

3.  The landlord shall not abuse the right of access or use it to harass the tenant. Except in case of emergency, the landlord shall give the tenant at least 24 hours’ notice of intent to enter and may enter only at reasonable times during normal business hours unless the tenant expressly consents to shorter notice or to entry during nonbusiness hours with respect to the particular entry.

4.  The landlord has no other right of access except:

(a) Pursuant to court order;

(b) Where the tenant has abandoned or surrendered the premises; or

(c) Where permitted under NRS 118A.440.


(Added to NRS by 1977, 1337)


https://www.leg.state.nv.us/nrs/nrs-118 ... 118ASec330


If they look, they may find some way to sue them for harassment or even discrimination. Not sure if it was in the small print they signed when they checked in for this sort of thing.

Have a great, gun carryin', Kenpo day

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Landlord-tenant doesn’t apply to short term hotel stays.
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knockonit wrote: September 20th, 2022, 6:38 pm hey now, what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas, man, you just ruined my opinion of the joint, i'm so disappointed, :dance:
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That old woman was quite skillful in bypassing the belt, pants, and underwear all in one fell swoop to grab a handful of my sweaty gentleman's sausage and potatoes. She went from zero to past the taint in about .5 seconds.

Funny thing is they had been together for three years, and that ceased in dramatic fashion that night. Lol.
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The gaming commission runs the casinos and Las Vegas.
Good luck trying to go up against them.
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Doesn't the one tacked out dork have a bounty hunting series? Looked familiar.
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paulgt2164 wrote: September 20th, 2022, 11:30 am The TFB TV basically was the hassle of the hotel policy regarding firearms and how pointless it was. James Reeves was in town for the Shot show - and was the only one in his group that had his carry gun in luggage.

The rest of his crew were carrying concealed. Basically they had zero issue - got to the rooms, no one was none the wiser.

I guess the hotel x-ray/checks/scans the luggage when it is ferried to the room somehow and detected his pistol in it's box or whatever.

They then confiscated it, and force him to undergo a check in / check out procedure that required multiple people, armed security, multiple trips to the vault, and upwards of an hour to retrieve his firearm. Whereas if he just had it on him - none of this would have happened. It was such a hassle of process he forewent carrying the entire trip, and because the retrieval was so inefficient, unorganized, and frankly B.S. he nearly missed his flight despite starting the process with an allotted half hour or so to do it (it took way longer.)

The moral of the story was - conceal carry because you can't trust idiots to make a process that is efficient and intelligent when it comes to the damn, dirty, evil guns.

He probably had to pull the video due to the pushback from the hotel - for illuminating the absolute clusterf*ck it was. Considering the amount of business the shot show attracts I am sure the venue / hotel was pretty p*ssed at looking like the dumbasses they were.
I know this is an old post, but the hotel didn't "catch" it. He offered it up thinking it wouldn't be an ordeal.

I can tell you, he was *heated* about how it all went down. He's not going to be making the same mistake.
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Don’t tell nobody concealed carry means don’t tell nobody easy peasy!But the last time I was in Vegas them wannabe Police 👮‍♀️ where everywhere
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Fun fact for my “concealed means concealed” crowd…
https://patriot1tech.com/magazine/casin ... las-vegas/
https://www.casino.org/news/oklahoma-ca ... t-threats/

TL;DR
Casinos are using AI to scan for CCW and weapons.
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