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AK hammer following the carrier?

Posted: February 20th, 2024, 3:58 pm
by Gunslinger808
Have an AK I haven’t fired in many months, today it decided to act up by having the hammer follow the carrier while holding the trigger and cocking it.
No idea why, checked it, nothing seems out of place, and no foreign debris in the trigger group area.

Ideas, comments, or possible reasons it’s just started doing it?

Re: AK hammer following the carrier?

Posted: February 28th, 2024, 8:53 pm
by Cvz
Can you post pics of the fcg? Is the disconnect grabbing the hammer when the trigger is held back if you cock the hammer by hand?

Re: AK hammer following the carrier?

Posted: March 13th, 2024, 2:43 pm
by srfnken
I do not think it just started doing it. Most likely been like that the whole time and you can see it skip if you hold the trigger all the way in for the function test. It may not skip often when live firing but I am sure it will. If you look at the slot in the trigger guard where the trigger pokes out of the receiver you will see that that slot is longer than normal. The foot of the trigger will not be stopped by the receiver and it will pass through the receiver. When I compared it to my azex build and the PSA one I just got in the shop, both of mine are short slots and yours is long. I believe this is your problem.

Re: AK hammer following the carrier?

Posted: March 13th, 2024, 3:22 pm
by mtptwo
Hammer isn't connecting with the disconnector. Did you forget the disconnector spring?

Re: AK hammer following the carrier?

Posted: March 13th, 2024, 4:04 pm
by Doc
Gunslinger808 wrote: February 20th, 2024, 3:58 pm Have an AK I haven’t fired in many months, today it decided to act up by having the hammer follow the carrier while holding the trigger and cocking it.
No idea why, checked it, nothing seems out of place, and no foreign debris in the trigger group area.

Ideas, comments, or possible reasons it’s just started doing it?
curious if you ever got this sorted out.

Re: AK hammer following the carrier?

Posted: March 15th, 2024, 1:31 am
by Gunslinger808
mtptwo wrote: March 13th, 2024, 3:22 pm Hammer isn't connecting with the disconnector. Did you forget the disconnector spring?
Haven’t touched it, it’s an AZEX build I never had a problem with, last time I shot it it ran well.
Brought it out to sell and it decided to do this, embarrassing as hell when function check has it do that.
Sometimes the hammer does latch, but in this case sometimes is certainly not good enough.
If you look at the slot in the trigger guard where the trigger pokes out of the receiver you will see that that slot is longer than normal. The foot of the trigger will not be stopped by the receiver and it will pass through the receiver. When I compared it to my azex build and the PSA one I just got in the shop, both of mine are short slots and yours is long. I believe this is your problem.
It’s possible, I’ll just end up taking it to an AK smith and let them figure it out.
Any recommendations?

I’ll get a few pics up tomorrow including what srfnken mentioned, and sorry for not responding to you guys sooner, been out of town and really haven’t had time to deal with it.

Re: AK hammer following the carrier?

Posted: March 15th, 2024, 4:48 am
by Doc
Gunslinger808 wrote: March 15th, 2024, 1:31 am
mtptwo wrote: March 13th, 2024, 3:22 pm Hammer isn't connecting with the disconnector. Did you forget the disconnector spring?
Haven’t touched it, it’s an AZEX build I never had a problem with, last time I shot it it ran well.
Brought it out to sell and it decided to do this, embarrassing as hell when function check has it do that.
Sometimes the hammer does latch, but in this case sometimes is certainly not good enough.
If you look at the slot in the trigger guard where the trigger pokes out of the receiver you will see that that slot is longer than normal. The foot of the trigger will not be stopped by the receiver and it will pass through the receiver. When I compared it to my azex build and the PSA one I just got in the shop, both of mine are short slots and yours is long. I believe this is your problem.
It’s possible, I’ll just end up taking it to an AK smith and let them figure it out.
Any recommendations?

I’ll get a few pics up tomorrow including what srfnken mentioned, and sorry for not responding to you guys sooner, been out of town and really haven’t had time to deal with it.
Take it over to Josh at Copperhead in Tempe

https://copperheadusa.com/

Re: AK hammer following the carrier?

Posted: April 12th, 2024, 8:23 am
by 1bardan+
I had the same problem once. It was determined to be the hammer spring which also tensions the semi auto reset hook, but also look at that hook. If it’s chipped or broken, it may not grab the hammer.