Bought one that somebody had built himself, because it was really cheap. By the time I spend the money to get it working, it will probably cost more than if I had just bought a good one to start. But anyway, here I am with a rifle that doesn't feed, doesn't extract, gets light primer hits, and generally acts like a Democrat.
Who can I take it to, to say "Here, see if you can make this turkey run"?
East side: Tempe, Mesa, Gilbert, Chandler.
Thanks.
Looking for an AR-10 gunsmith
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Re: Looking for an AR-10 gunsmith
Wright Armory. Won’t be the cheapest, but they do great work. I’ve used them multiple times in the past for everything from Novak dovetail cuts, NFA engraving, Cerakote, full AK builds. They do excellent work.
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Thanks. I'll try them. I have used them before, but always for specific projects, not to diagnose. I hope they will be able to figure out the problem(s).
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I’ve been driving out to Black Metal Firearms. I’ve brought a couple of things down there and they looked it over, recommended some parts to fix it and boom done free. I’ve gone ahead and just bought my parts there and installed them at home. They will install parts purchased there for free. I had the do a 308 muzzle break just so didn’t have to clean off the bench at home. Guy was done before I could even put receipt away.
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Re: Looking for an AR-10 gunsmith
I'd recommend hitting up a local gunsmith in Tempe, Mesa, Gilbert, or Chandler. Local gun shops are great for recommendations. Also, try asking in online gun forums for suggestions.
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@smithers599 - not sure if you've resolved this or not... If not - there is a pretty good bit of knowledge on the topic at the 308AR board (https://forum.308ar.com/) and some of the very active guys live in AZ. I've learned a bunch there. Some of the "experts" can be a bit salty if you ask a question before reading the common stuff or ask a question for which there is a standard answer and then fight with them about the answer before trying their suggestion.
My sense is that a healthy majority of AR10 / AR308 issues fall into one of a few categories
1) Parts compatibility issues (no "milspec" for all manufacturers to follow) - if your issues stem from this - you either need to be a machinist - or replace parts.
2) Under / over gassed conditions associated with mismatched and non-adjustable parts
3) Buffer spring / buffer weight mismatch issues often associated with using stock AR-15 carbine buffer stuff behind a much heavier bolt and a mismatched gas system.
I just finished my FIRST AR10 build - so I'm no expert - but with a bit of guidance from the guys on that other board - it just took some minor adjustments to get it cycling nicely last weekend.
Your "doesn't feed / doesn't extract" sounds like it COULD just be undergassed or over springed / over buffered?
The light primer strikes are a different thing. Is the back end of the barrel extension flush with the back edge of the spot in the upper receiver where it sits - or does it sit proud into the area (talking about the interface seen in the red mark in this pic stolen from the interwebs)?.. Any chance you have a headspace gauge for .308?
Again - I'm no gunsmith - but if folks want a ton of money to look at it - I'd be happy to try to troubleshoot with you. It could be a moneypit nightmare... it could also be something that a gas block adjustment or spring / buffer swap resolves...
My sense is that a healthy majority of AR10 / AR308 issues fall into one of a few categories
1) Parts compatibility issues (no "milspec" for all manufacturers to follow) - if your issues stem from this - you either need to be a machinist - or replace parts.
2) Under / over gassed conditions associated with mismatched and non-adjustable parts
3) Buffer spring / buffer weight mismatch issues often associated with using stock AR-15 carbine buffer stuff behind a much heavier bolt and a mismatched gas system.
I just finished my FIRST AR10 build - so I'm no expert - but with a bit of guidance from the guys on that other board - it just took some minor adjustments to get it cycling nicely last weekend.
Your "doesn't feed / doesn't extract" sounds like it COULD just be undergassed or over springed / over buffered?
The light primer strikes are a different thing. Is the back end of the barrel extension flush with the back edge of the spot in the upper receiver where it sits - or does it sit proud into the area (talking about the interface seen in the red mark in this pic stolen from the interwebs)?.. Any chance you have a headspace gauge for .308?
Again - I'm no gunsmith - but if folks want a ton of money to look at it - I'd be happy to try to troubleshoot with you. It could be a moneypit nightmare... it could also be something that a gas block adjustment or spring / buffer swap resolves...
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Re: Looking for an AR-10 gunsmith
Thank you very much, BigNate.
I was referred to Marty Enloe: https://www.enloecustomguns.com/
I have an appointment to take the gun to him tomorrow, with mags and ammo. So, we shall see what we see!
I was referred to Marty Enloe: https://www.enloecustomguns.com/
I have an appointment to take the gun to him tomorrow, with mags and ammo. So, we shall see what we see!
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Good stuff... hopes he gets it sorted out for you!
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I had fits with my DPMS decades ago. Magazine issues where the the round was not presented at the right angle, fixed with a Brownell magaizine lip bender. A burr in the gas port prevented cycling, and other stuff. Magpul mags are flawless.
Got it all squared away now and learned a lot. Experimenting with several trigger styles. Currently a LaRue 2-stage. After cratered primers and a blowout, have a JP high pressure bolt to try.
Rifle is very accurate with a Fulton/Criterion 18.5" barrel. MOA or better.
Got it all squared away now and learned a lot. Experimenting with several trigger styles. Currently a LaRue 2-stage. After cratered primers and a blowout, have a JP high pressure bolt to try.
Rifle is very accurate with a Fulton/Criterion 18.5" barrel. MOA or better.