Re: Safariland is in deep doo-doo
Posted: April 29th, 2023, 8:12 pm
What do mean by “without additional verification of the substance”?
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Wrong.kenpoprofessor wrote: ↑April 29th, 2023, 4:44 pmBut, you're still being arrested and booked even if you've done nothing wrong and the field tests show positive. It's wrong.Lobo2087 wrote: ↑April 29th, 2023, 3:39 pm No, inaccurate. In arizona when field tests are completed the individual is generally released with long form recommendations pending lab test results. If someone ends up at 4th avenue on only field testing they will be released pending hearing in the arresting jurisdiction
The only significant difference would generally be when it is a large amount and has been verified with field test supported by something like trunarc and other supportive evidence and even then after initial hearing at 4th the individual is likely released pending
Have a great, gun carryin', Kenpo day
Clyde
Joe_Blacke wrote: ↑April 30th, 2023, 5:59 amWrong.kenpoprofessor wrote: ↑April 29th, 2023, 4:44 pmBut, you're still being arrested and booked even if you've done nothing wrong and the field tests show positive. It's wrong.Lobo2087 wrote: ↑April 29th, 2023, 3:39 pm No, inaccurate. In arizona when field tests are completed the individual is generally released with long form recommendations pending lab test results. If someone ends up at 4th avenue on only field testing they will be released pending hearing in the arresting jurisdiction
The only significant difference would generally be when it is a large amount and has been verified with field test supported by something like trunarc and other supportive evidence and even then after initial hearing at 4th the individual is likely released pending
Have a great, gun carryin', Kenpo day
Clyde
Pretty much every time the person will simply voluntarily admit what type of drug it is even before testing. Druggies aren’t the smartest people. Their admission alone is Probable Cause for an arrest. The old school way was not to even bother with a test if they already confessed. However every department has their own policies and some do the test anyway after a confession. Police work ain’t like you saw on 80s cop shows on TV.
The other thing is that the vast majority of time someone arrested for drugs had another arrestable offense at the time. Usually we caught them with a warrant, they were shoplifting, or doing a burglary. Most cops aren’t arresting someone with a simple joint, unless they were also DUI drugs.
As Lobo said if it is just drugs, it’s easiest to cite and release (misdemeanor), or long form it (felony) through the county attorney and let them decide if they are going to charge. The county attorney won’t charge until crime lab results are in confirming the drugs.
Already asked and answered.kenpoprofessor wrote: ↑April 30th, 2023, 6:56 amJoe_Blacke wrote: ↑April 30th, 2023, 5:59 amWrong.kenpoprofessor wrote: ↑April 29th, 2023, 4:44 pm
But, you're still being arrested and booked even if you've done nothing wrong and the field tests show positive. It's wrong.
Have a great, gun carryin', Kenpo day
Clyde
Pretty much every time the person will simply voluntarily admit what type of drug it is even before testing. Druggies aren’t the smartest people. Their admission alone is Probable Cause for an arrest. The old school way was not to even bother with a test if they already confessed. However every department has their own policies and some do the test anyway after a confession. Police work ain’t like you saw on 80s cop shows on TV.
The other thing is that the vast majority of time someone arrested for drugs had another arrestable offense at the time. Usually we caught them with a warrant, they were shoplifting, or doing a burglary. Most cops aren’t arresting someone with a simple joint, unless they were also DUI drugs.
As Lobo said if it is just drugs, it’s easiest to cite and release (misdemeanor), or long form it (felony) through the county attorney and let them decide if they are going to charge. The county attorney won’t charge until crime lab results are in confirming the drugs.
Do you only cite them and release them? From what I've seen, if they test a substance and it's shown to be positive, they get hooked and booked, no matter if they're innocent. Too many vids out there with cops planting drugs on innocent people as well.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_ ... ting+drugs
Clyde
These aren’t urinalysis tests to see if someone is under the influence.needsmostuff wrote: ↑May 3rd, 2023, 7:12 am Don't know a thing, just wondering, if maybe these tests are used by company quaks (Industrial Medicine) that you get sent to if you have an incident on the job ?
Results of those don't go to court but can get you fired.
Cool , thanks.Joe_Blacke wrote: ↑May 3rd, 2023, 7:15 am
These aren’t urinalysis tests to see if someone is under the influence.
These are field tests to check if a found substance is indicative of illegal drugs. You need a sample of the suspected drugs.