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Switching from the CAT to the RATS. I’ve run a cat with a wilder tactical carrier for a long time. While it’s easy it’s so damn bulky. Especially to conceal.

The rats can be sling cross body or attached to belt loops. I love this damn thing. It’s easy to use and I can get it tighter then my cat.

Highly recommend ppl check em out


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I highly recommend that people who want to actually stop bleeding not carry a RATS TQ.
There are only three certified . The North American Rescue CAT, the SOF-T Wide, and the RMT. Of those only the CAT and SOFT-W are windlass style tourniquets. These two tourniquets also have a massive amount of real world usage data to back up their effectiveness.
The RATS TQ is not effective, certified by any public body, or have the clinical and real world usage to support it's usage
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Have you used a RATs?

TCCC is not the end all be all. Isn’t it just another government program.

Have you seen the videos of the CaT failing on kids?
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G34 wrote: April 21st, 2019, 7:59 pm Have you used a RATs?

TCCC is not the end all be all. Isn’t it just another government program.

Have you seen the videos of the CaT failing on kids?
I have purchased a RATS in the past; based on my experiences and research, I rejected it as a viable TQ for lifesaving.

The Committee for TCCC is not just another government body; whenever I hear that as a reason to pick a non certified TQ, I have serious doubts as to the level of training or experience the person has. It is made up of some no bullshit subject matter experts when it comes to emergency trauma medicine. There is a reason the CAT tourniquet is that gold standard for TQs. It has both the clinical research, and an unprecedented level of real world applications backing it up. The RATs has none of this.

I have extensive experience with the CAT tourniquet, real world applications in both war zones and as a police officer. I've also spent considerable time in training on this subject. That includes both military and civilian trainers and organizations.
As to pediatric cases, any limb too small for a CAT TQ can be secured with direct pressure from an adult and/or proper use of a pressure bandage(creating, for lack of a proper term, an improvised TQ on that small of a limb).

I would highly suggest getting some training in emergency trauma medicine. A local AZ company I highly recommend is Independence Training. https://www.independencetraining.com/
If money is tight The Tactical Medic puts on a free Stop the Bleed course every month with Independence Training teaching at their shop in Mesa. http://www.thetacticalmedic.com/
I believe they post the dates for the free monthly classes on both Facebook pages.
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I disagree, and that’s ok. Since I have personal experience and tested it.

I’ve got military, contractor, private protection under my belt. A bunch of medical training.

I just agree to disagree
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Not to mention the shady a** business practices of the company creating their own “TCCC” company so they can print on their devices they are TCCC certified.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.itstac ... roval/amp/
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guardyan_angyl wrote: April 23rd, 2019, 10:48 am Not to mention the shady a** business practices of the company creating their own “TCCC” company so they can print on their devices they are TCCC certified.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.itstac ... roval/amp/
That's sort of like what some shooting Instructors do. They create a "society" or a special curriculum and proclaim them selves certified in that and they can then certify other Instructors or strudents in such as IDS or Combat Focus or something else or Valhalla or something else like that.
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I’m glad I’m not the only one that sees that.
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G34 wrote: April 23rd, 2019, 4:42 pm I’m glad I’m not the only one that sees that.
You do realize that it's the company that makes the RATS TQ that created a fake "TCCC" company to brand their own product as "TCCC Approved" right? Right? That is the integrity of the company you are trusting to make a life saving device.
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I prefer the CAT and SOFT-T Wide TQs. Used the CAT in combat on quite a few occasions and know quite a few guys whose lives they helped save. Not really a fan of the RATS TQ, there is a chance you can cause more unneeded damage to the individual than what has already been done. Pressure applied around a limb with the CAT and SOFT-T Wide is much more uniform and better distributed than with the RATS TQ.
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Do you carry the CAT everyday with you?

If not then there’s not much to say
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Yes, I do carry them daily.
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G34 wrote: April 24th, 2019, 12:55 pm Do you carry the CAT everyday with you?

If not then there’s not much to say
Yes, all day, everyday.
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You wear jeans all through the summer? All day ? Never wear shorts?
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I do. Because all I do is burn instead of tan.
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