The state of primer availability - 2023

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The state of primer availability - 2023

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Shouldn’t be to long and eggs will surpass primers in price and availability
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I just heard that Palmetto Armory is going into primer production.
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We have 10,000 small rifle primers at our shop. $99. per thousand.
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Cmoor wrote: February 11th, 2023, 7:45 pm We have 10,000 small rifle primers at our shop. $99. per thousand.
Let us know when that goes back to NoRmAl please.
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Doc wrote: February 12th, 2023, 7:11 am
Cmoor wrote: February 11th, 2023, 7:45 pm We have 10,000 small rifle primers at our shop. $99. per thousand.
Let us know when that goes back to NoRmAl please.
I dropped them to $50 and sold all of them..
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Cmoor wrote: February 15th, 2023, 11:32 pm
Doc wrote: February 12th, 2023, 7:11 am
Cmoor wrote: February 11th, 2023, 7:45 pm We have 10,000 small rifle primers at our shop. $99. per thousand.
Let us know when that goes back to NoRmAl please.
I dropped them to $50 and sold all of them..
Yeah but for the homies, let US know when things get back to normal.

I wasn’t pooping on your sale. Get your $$$!
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Doc wrote: February 12th, 2023, 7:11 am
Cmoor wrote: February 11th, 2023, 7:45 pm We have 10,000 small rifle primers at our shop. $99. per thousand.
Let us know when that goes back to NoRmAl please.
Based on the current wholesale, normal is going to be in the $70-80 range.
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delta6 wrote: February 16th, 2023, 8:43 am
Doc wrote: February 12th, 2023, 7:11 am
Cmoor wrote: February 11th, 2023, 7:45 pm We have 10,000 small rifle primers at our shop. $99. per thousand.
Let us know when that goes back to NoRmAl please.
Based on the current wholesale, normal is going to be in the $70-80 range.
I had a wholesaler quote me $57 today but, he said his shipping was going to be $30 bucks plus haz mat per 1k... So if the new normal will be $70-80. I certainly wont bother stocking or selling them in the future.
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Cmoor wrote: February 16th, 2023, 6:33 pm
delta6 wrote: February 16th, 2023, 8:43 am
Doc wrote: February 12th, 2023, 7:11 am

Let us know when that goes back to NoRmAl please.
Based on the current wholesale, normal is going to be in the $70-80 range.
I had a wholesaler quote me $57 today but, he said his shipping was going to be $30 bucks plus haz mat per 1k... So if the new normal will be $70-80. I certainly wont bother stocking or selling them in the future.
Can’t you get multiple thousands for a si gel hazmat fee?

Either way if people stop buying them the prices will eventually come down.
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Joe_Blacke wrote: February 16th, 2023, 7:22 pm
Cmoor wrote: February 16th, 2023, 6:33 pm
delta6 wrote: February 16th, 2023, 8:43 am
Based on the current wholesale, normal is going to be in the $70-80 range.
I had a wholesaler quote me $57 today but, he said his shipping was going to be $30 bucks plus haz mat per 1k... So if the new normal will be $70-80. I certainly wont bother stocking or selling them in the future.
Can’t you get multiple thousands for a si gel hazmat fee?

Either way if people stop buying them the prices will eventually come down.
I don't think it's us home reloaders that are causing the drought. Ammunition companies still haven't caught up. Went to targetsportsusa recently and their shelves are still kind of bare.
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Boriqua wrote: February 17th, 2023, 7:23 am
Joe_Blacke wrote: February 16th, 2023, 7:22 pm
Cmoor wrote: February 16th, 2023, 6:33 pm
I had a wholesaler quote me $57 today but, he said his shipping was going to be $30 bucks plus haz mat per 1k... So if the new normal will be $70-80. I certainly wont bother stocking or selling them in the future.
Can’t you get multiple thousands for a si gel hazmat fee?

Either way if people stop buying them the prices will eventually come down.
I don't think it's us home reloaders that are causing the drought. Ammunition companies still haven't caught up. Went to targetsportsusa recently and their shelves are still kind of bare.
It supply and demand. Once demand drops and there is an oversupply, prices will come down.
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Don't forget most European manufacturers are cranking out as fast as they can to supply the consumption rate of Ukrainian forces, which is very high. The supply chain for civilian consumption comes in second. We saw this in 2003 and 2004 when the consumption rate of the Pentagon's stockpile started outstripping the replacement rate. Ammo prices doubled and tripled and didn't start correcting downward til about 2007, but never truly returned to pre-war prices. You could get bulk reloadable 5.56 for $0.13 cents per round before 9/11 and even for about a year afterward. But then it climbed to over $0.70 cents per round, and when it finally fell back down, you were lucky to find it for under $0.30 cents. Then Obama got elected and the rollercoaster continued until Trump in 2016.

History shows us that trying to wait it out til things improve takes a lot longer than anyone thinks it will, with no guarantee that once it does return to favorable level it will remain there.

The month before the pandemic hit, the general consensus was that we had at least another 8-10 months before the posturing and pontificating of the upcoming election would cause more panic buying. Prices where low and stable,...so nobody was yet in a hury to get stocked up. Then the panic caught everyone with their pants down.

Some things, regardless of cost, just can't wait, and shouldn't.
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Cmoor wrote: February 16th, 2023, 6:33 pm
delta6 wrote: February 16th, 2023, 8:43 am
Doc wrote: February 12th, 2023, 7:11 am

Let us know when that goes back to NoRmAl please.
Based on the current wholesale, normal is going to be in the $70-80 range.
I had a wholesaler quote me $57 today but, he said his shipping was going to be $30 bucks plus haz mat per 1k... So if the new normal will be $70-80. I certainly wont bother stocking or selling them in the future.
Wow. I don't know for certain but it sounds like your Wholesaler is trying to pad the order. I just bought 1000 primers from Midsouth shooting and The shipping was 11.50 and hazmat was 19.99. Still costly but it wouldn't have gone up exponentially with every additional 1000. If he is charging you 30.00 + additional hazmat Per 1000 he is just trying to pad his numbers because its not costing him that much extra in hazmat and shipping per unit.
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