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Re: Brass Annealing
Sent: Yesterday, 6:54 pm
by shooter444
Is English your first language?
I asked,... "what's with all of YOUR questions?"
If that's too cryptic, let me break it down in more simple terms,... What is the purpose of the questions you asked me,... or, why did you ask those question,... your choice.
Brass Annealing
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Re: Brass Annealing
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Re: Brass Annealing
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Re: Brass Annealing
Sent: Yesterday, 7:29 pm
From: G34
Recipient: shooter444
Cuz I wanted to know. That’s all you need to know
Re: Brass Annealing
Sent: Yesterday, 7:29 pm
From: G34
Recipient: shooter444
Cuz I wanted to know. That’s all you need to know
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Re: Brass Annealing
Hmmm, I guess some folks trying to come here and drum up business don't like facing reality.
G34 wrote,.. "For precision loading yes it can and will make a difference over time. will it pay for the cost of a Giruard, maybe. If anyone needs this service done i can do it. let me know. I run a Giruard Annealing machine"
Ain't noth'n like a wise ass newbee!!!
G34 wrote,.. "For precision loading yes it can and will make a difference over time. will it pay for the cost of a Giruard, maybe. If anyone needs this service done i can do it. let me know. I run a Giruard Annealing machine"
Ain't noth'n like a wise ass newbee!!!
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Re: Brass Annealing
nope not at all. I make well more money then i know what to do with. Just wanted to be helpful to less fortunate shooters.
new here, far from new to the community. Good day sir
new here, far from new to the community. Good day sir
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Re: Brass Annealing
Right!!! You're just a good ol'e rich boy, coming here to help everybody out with their annealing problem,... getting all your questions answered politely,.... but telling me " Cuz I wanted to know. That’s all you need to know " when I ask you a question.
Riiight,... I believe you !!!
Riiight,... I believe you !!!
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Re: Brass Annealing
I'll do it for you. call 6024977420 tom no charge
Re: Brass Annealing
I just bought on of these.
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Re: Brass Annealing
I will sell you mine! It's too big for my little condo 
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Re: Brass Annealing
Contact Brass Tacks Munitions (Randy Winkel) he does induction annealing which is far more consistent than flame annealing. He only charges about 0.10 per case.
rcwinkel@brasstacksmunitions.com
(360) 334-2390
rcwinkel@brasstacksmunitions.com
(360) 334-2390
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Re: Brass Annealing
Ya gotta admit, 3700 fps is pretty speedy for 223 pressures in today's normal of 16" to 20" AR's and 55gr or heavier bullets. 2800 for 223 and 3000 to 3200fps for 556, would be the first thing many think of...
My load database has 26 loads that clock at 3700 or faster (all from manuals-not my concoction)... but the barrel length is 24", 12 different powders and bullet weights range from 30gr to 45gr... definitely varmint territory and a reloaders dream, not commonly found in widespread use today.
Getting back to the annealing debate... a couple facts that might help rationalize... brass gets brittle when work hardened. Work hardening occurs during firing and also from various reloading operations (resizing, crimping, that sort of thing). Eventually the hard brass won't flex or stretch and necks will crack.
Annealing is said to release the stresses, soften the brass and make it more malleable and uniform, thus avoiding conditions for cracks and prolonging brass life.
YMMV
My load database has 26 loads that clock at 3700 or faster (all from manuals-not my concoction)... but the barrel length is 24", 12 different powders and bullet weights range from 30gr to 45gr... definitely varmint territory and a reloaders dream, not commonly found in widespread use today.
Getting back to the annealing debate... a couple facts that might help rationalize... brass gets brittle when work hardened. Work hardening occurs during firing and also from various reloading operations (resizing, crimping, that sort of thing). Eventually the hard brass won't flex or stretch and necks will crack.
Annealing is said to release the stresses, soften the brass and make it more malleable and uniform, thus avoiding conditions for cracks and prolonging brass life.
YMMV