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couple questions, New to MG
Posted: July 29th, 2018, 9:50 am
by Guided-miscle
was at the range talking with another shooter in respect to M16 thinking I'll be receiving soon, I have interest to do an SBR. He has an SBR so I asked how long he had to wait for that stamp and its cost, he stated in regard to paperwork I have done it Trumps

that stamp so don' need to get it. Is this correct? Also Have started thinking silencer would I need to get stamp for that? I know these points of interest would tie to this firearm only.
Re: couple questions, New to MG
Posted: July 29th, 2018, 10:01 am
by Harrier
When you start mess'in around with NFA toys, you will learn patience and develop elbow muscle memory from reaching for your wallet.
I wouldn't rely on anything anyone tells you- learn the law and find out what the ATF expects, then you can weigh range talk.
Re: couple questions, New to MG
Posted: July 29th, 2018, 11:04 am
by Guided-miscle
(I wouldn't rely on anything anyone tells you- learn the law and find out what the ATF expects, then you can weigh range talk.)
That would be the safe/smart policy, Thank you
Re: couple questions, New to MG
Posted: July 29th, 2018, 12:18 pm
by XJThrottle
From what I've read, every part that my require a stamp individually, still requires ones when paired with other NFA items.
IE; SBR with a suppressor= 2 stamps.
Re: couple questions, New to MG
Posted: July 29th, 2018, 12:26 pm
by Tim McBride
A Machine gun can have a barrel shorter then 16 inches.
So in the case of a registered receiver M16 you can buy all the short barreled uppers you want for it.
If you are purchasing a DIAS(drop in auto sear) or Lighting link, the addition of the conversion device makes the entire gun a MG only when installed. So a 10.5 inch upper, DIAS and Title I lower is legal. Take the DIAS out, and you'd have an unregistered SBR. But take the upper off, then remove the DIAS? Legal, and just a collection of parts.
Confused yet?
Re: couple questions, New to MG
Posted: July 29th, 2018, 12:29 pm
by Tim McBride
When you get into HK and some other stuff the ATF has allowed in the past "married" guns that are only one tax. An example is an RDTS MP5SD. It was a one stamp gun, and that had a permantly attached suppressor and a shorter then 16 inch barrel.
Re: couple questions, New to MG
Posted: July 29th, 2018, 1:43 pm
by Guided-miscle
(Confused yet?)
I think I understood what you conveyed, it made sense. Getting registered receiver so would be less opportunity to screw up in that regard. Would/ Will be way cool if don't have to get stamps regarding SBR/suppressor
Thank you to all responses!
Re: couple questions, New to MG
Posted: July 29th, 2018, 8:18 pm
by Tim McBride
Guided-miscle wrote: ↑July 29th, 2018, 1:43 pm
(Confused yet?)
I think I understood what you conveyed, it made sense. Getting registered receiver so would be less opportunity to screw up in that regard. Would/ Will be way cool if don't have to get stamps regarding SBR/suppressor
Thank you to all responses!
Just to be clear you are going to have to pay stamps and wait on any stand alone Suppressors you buy, and uppers for your M16 are ok under 16inches as long as they are only used on the M16.
Re: couple questions, New to MG
Posted: July 30th, 2018, 6:30 am
by storage_man
Wait till the op finds out the cost of a REAL M16 !
Re: couple questions, New to MG
Posted: July 30th, 2018, 7:35 am
by XJThrottle
I read it like it was already on the way.
Re: couple questions, New to MG
Posted: July 30th, 2018, 3:45 pm
by storage_man
XJThrottle wrote: ↑July 30th, 2018, 7:35 am
I read it like it was already on the way.
My apologizes to the OP, you maybe right (I had to read it 3 more times).
I missed the "I'll be receiving soon" in his original post.
Re: couple questions, New to MG
Posted: July 31st, 2018, 4:26 pm
by omegaman
then comes all the other s*** you'll "need" LMAO its an expensive habit
Re: couple questions, New to MG
Posted: August 2nd, 2018, 11:16 pm
by Guided-miscle
Transfer paperwork on its 10 mo. so hopefully here sooooon!
Thank you for the responses