Brace ruling and proof of possession
- ducatilover
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Brace ruling and proof of possession
As I read the ruling and instructions on filing out form 1 as a trust I’m reading that I need to provide proof of possession before the ruling. Which I did. However what proof can I submit if it was purchased via private party with no BoS?
Any suggestions? I don’t want to register but I always wanted to convert this pistol to an even anyway. So I’ll take the chance now that the tax is free (if I read that correctly)
Any suggestions? I don’t want to register but I always wanted to convert this pistol to an even anyway. So I’ll take the chance now that the tax is free (if I read that correctly)
- YNOTAZ
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Re: Brace ruling and proof of possession
According to the ATF, from their webinar, it should be included on your schedule "A", property list of the trust.
That's what they said. Now, if they demand proof of it being prior to their rule change, it's too late.
That's what they said. Now, if they demand proof of it being prior to their rule change, it's too late.
- ducatilover
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Re: Brace ruling and proof of possession
Question is: is having it on the schedule A good enough proof? I read something about a BOS? Who does that?? This is AZ. No bill of sale. Do I need my schedule A notarized? I sure hope not. Never had to do that with a trust. So will my firm1 be rejected and then I have to file as an individual?
Too many unanswered questions. Too many flaws in this ruling.
Too many unanswered questions. Too many flaws in this ruling.
- kenpoprofessor
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Re: Brace ruling and proof of possession
ducatilover wrote: ↑February 7th, 2023, 5:55 pm Question is: is having it on the schedule A good enough proof? I read something about a BOS? Who does that?? This is AZ. No bill of sale. Do I need my schedule A notarized? I sure hope not. Never had to do that with a trust. So will my firm1 be rejected and then I have to file as an individual?
Too many unanswered questions. Too many flaws in this ruling.
You should just turn it into them, or destroy it, that way you're completely in the clear, no guess work or paperwork required at all.
Have a great, gun carryin', Kenpo day
Clyde
- ducatilover
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Re: Brace ruling and proof of possession
From what I read you don’t even have to destroy it. You just have to remove it. Perfectly legal to be in possession of a brace.
But a free form1 sounds good.
I want to know what our lovely legislators are doing about this.
But a free form1 sounds good.
I want to know what our lovely legislators are doing about this.
- Azgunlover69
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Re: Brace ruling and proof of possession
Say we get approved for a free form 1, becomes an sbr, then later down the road it all gets overturned....Will we get to keep the stamp or will it default back to a pistol?
- YNOTAZ
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Re: Brace ruling and proof of possession
It depends on who you believe, ATF-A or ATF-B.ducatilover wrote: ↑February 7th, 2023, 8:48 pm From what I read you don’t even have to destroy it. You just have to remove it. Perfectly legal to be in possession of a brace.
I want to know what our lovely legislators are doing about this.
During their mind-numbing 1 hour presentation they "SAID" that you do not have to destroy it.
They said that while they had this slied up on the screen.
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You figure it out ATF-A or ATF-B
- Tenring
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Re: Brace ruling and proof of possession
What about state law ......... fast forward to today.
https://www.arizonashooting.org/forum/v ... =4&t=18739
https://www.arizonashooting.org/forum/v ... =4&t=18739
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Re: Brace ruling and proof of possession
lmao. why the f*** do you need to have a gun if you are just going to hand them over to tyrants when asked? bunch of man children. sell the guns, you dont need em.kenpoprofessor wrote: ↑February 7th, 2023, 5:57 pmducatilover wrote: ↑February 7th, 2023, 5:55 pm Question is: is having it on the schedule A good enough proof? I read something about a BOS? Who does that?? This is AZ. No bill of sale. Do I need my schedule A notarized? I sure hope not. Never had to do that with a trust. So will my firm1 be rejected and then I have to file as an individual?
Too many unanswered questions. Too many flaws in this ruling.
You should just turn it into them, or destroy it, that way you're completely in the clear, no guess work or paperwork required at all.
Have a great, gun carryin', Kenpo day
Clyde
- kenpoprofessor
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Re: Brace ruling and proof of possession
kawgomoo wrote: ↑March 8th, 2023, 10:28 pmlmao. why the f*** do you need to have a gun if you are just going to hand them over to tyrants when asked? bunch of man children. sell the guns, you dont need em.kenpoprofessor wrote: ↑February 7th, 2023, 5:57 pmducatilover wrote: ↑February 7th, 2023, 5:55 pm Question is: is having it on the schedule A good enough proof? I read something about a BOS? Who does that?? This is AZ. No bill of sale. Do I need my schedule A notarized? I sure hope not. Never had to do that with a trust. So will my firm1 be rejected and then I have to file as an individual?
Too many unanswered questions. Too many flaws in this ruling.
You should just turn it into them, or destroy it, that way you're completely in the clear, no guess work or paperwork required at all.
Have a great, gun carryin', Kenpo day
Clyde
Yep, pretty much what I was thinking.
Have a great, gun carryin', Kenpo day
Clyde
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Re: Brace ruling and proof of possession
Why do any of you own guns if you are chomping at the bit to comply with something that is not a law?
Is it not the sole purpose of the 2nd to resist tyranny? Why own tools of resistance if your sole intent is to comply?
Is it not the sole purpose of the 2nd to resist tyranny? Why own tools of resistance if your sole intent is to comply?
- ducatilover
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Re: Brace ruling and proof of possession
Problem solved. I destroyed it. I can sleep better now.