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ATF now says no sharing - does this mean no more range rentals or big shoots like Big Sandy?

Posted: January 25th, 2023, 3:39 pm
by Suck My Glock
While the new brace rules had everyone's attention,...ATF changed a bunch of other rules as well. Including whether you can let anyone else shoot your stuff. ATF now says you can't.



Re: ATF now says no sharing - does this mean no more range rentals or big shoots like Big Sandy?

Posted: January 25th, 2023, 4:28 pm
by QuietM4
Seems very inconvenient for those of us who always bring a federal law enforcement agent with us everytime we shoot our NFA items....

Another completely unenforceable "opinion".

How is any potential customer looking to by any SBR, suppressor, etc going to be able to handle them before buying? How is any EMPLOYEE of an FFL going to able to handle such item....an FFL usually only has one or two "Responsible Persons" listed on their FFL, and it's not the employees at the range or sales counter.

Re: ATF now says no sharing - does this mean no more range rentals or big shoots like Big Sandy?

Posted: January 25th, 2023, 4:28 pm
by XJThrottle
They really want to get their D's knocked in the dirt by the Supreme Court.

Re: ATF now says no sharing - does this mean no more range rentals or big shoots like Big Sandy?

Posted: January 25th, 2023, 4:36 pm
by YNOTAZ
Nothing new here. Title 2 firearms must be under the control of the responsible party. Personal, means you, Trust means trustees, LLC, Corp, etc., the designated parties.

I love everyone who thinks they are getting a freebie but have no idea what comes along with it once it is in the NFA registry. Like: try to sell it,

Seller: yeah, you get to pay me $1,800 for my AR SBR and I keep the firearm for a year while ATF decides if you are good enough to own it.

Buyer: what if I decide to back out in that year???

Seller: You can't back out unless I get evidence that you cancelled your application.

Buyer: Screw you, I'll build my own.

Re: ATF now says no sharing - does this mean no more range rentals or big shoots like Big Sandy?

Posted: January 25th, 2023, 7:31 pm
by Tenring
:puke-huge:

Re: ATF now says no sharing - does this mean no more range rentals or big shoots like Big Sandy?

Posted: January 25th, 2023, 7:56 pm
by xerts1911
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Re: ATF now says no sharing - does this mean no more range rentals or big shoots like Big Sandy?

Posted: January 26th, 2023, 7:12 pm
by xerts1191
https://bearingarms.com/ryan-petty/2023 ... ers-n66642


OOPS OUR BAD, NOT WHAT WE REALLY MEANT

Re: ATF now says no sharing - does this mean no more range rentals or big shoots like Big Sandy?

Posted: January 26th, 2023, 10:05 pm
by YNOTAZ
That just demonstrates how lopsided the ATF is. The NFA rule has been in place since 1986 yet they answer it the way they did, on cherry picked question to make their key points.

ATF is not to be trusted.

Re: ATF now says no sharing - does this mean no more range rentals or big shoots like Big Sandy?

Posted: January 27th, 2023, 6:31 am
by Tenring

Re: ATF now says no sharing - does this mean no more range rentals or big shoots like Big Sandy?

Posted: January 27th, 2023, 8:41 am
by cool arrow
YNOTAZ wrote: January 26th, 2023, 10:05 pm ATF is not to be trusted.
agreed, hard no...

Re: ATF now says no sharing - does this mean no more range rentals or big shoots like Big Sandy?

Posted: January 27th, 2023, 9:58 am
by Boriqua
I remember some of the cool stuff I got to try at some of the OLD AZS group shoots! So no more I guess?
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Re: ATF now says no sharing - does this mean no more range rentals or big shoots like Big Sandy?

Posted: January 27th, 2023, 10:27 am
by admin
ATF admitted that FAQ question was incorrect. It's no longer on the FAQ.


Re: ATF now says no sharing - does this mean no more range rentals or big shoots like Big Sandy?

Posted: March 9th, 2023, 7:16 am
by kawgomoo
Show me the LAW that says "no sharing".... What are you even complying with?

Re: ATF now says no sharing - does this mean no more range rentals or big shoots like Big Sandy?

Posted: March 9th, 2023, 7:20 am
by XJThrottle
kawgomoo wrote: March 9th, 2023, 7:16 am Show me the LAW that says "no sharing".... What are you even complying with?
You clearly didn't follow any of the links posted..

Re: ATF now says no sharing - does this mean no more range rentals or big shoots like Big Sandy?

Posted: March 9th, 2023, 11:40 am
by QuietM4
kawgomoo wrote: March 9th, 2023, 7:16 am Show me the LAW that says "no sharing".... What are you even complying with?
Another pointless instigator joins the forum...are you by chance an Accountant?