Best caliber for pistol cal carbine?

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Re: Best caliber for pistol cal carbine?

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StarQuester wrote: June 2nd, 2018, 12:03 am Here my thought process regarding PCC’s.


1: EXTAR, AZ company out of Lake Havasu.
https://extarusa.com/ep9.htm
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EP9, $420-ish, polymer AR pattern(4lbs), Glock mag with LRBHO. Comes with pistol brace.
EP10 and EP45 models due out later this year, slightly heavier(.50-1.0lb) and more expensive($50-100 more). Both have NP3 plated bolt and chamber, otherwise identical to EP9.


2: STRIBOG, Slovak company(same as Grand Power pistols)
https://grandpower.eu/produkt/stribog-sp9-a1/?lang=en
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SP9-A1, looks similar to B&T APC9. Key-mod or M-LOK, full Ambi controls with ability to swap charging handle side to side. Metal BUIS integrated into top rail. Cheap $20 mags/retrofit UZI mags possible. MSRP of $800, street price being around $700. AR pattern trigger, unsure which triggers will work though.
The SP9-A3 version is a delayed roller blowback, non-reciprocating charging handle, and if it comes in at the same price it’s a complete Scorpion EVO killer. All the features(and more) of a $1900 B&T APC9, for less than half the cost. It has yet to be imported though. Currently #1 on my buy list when it’s available.

Have also seen mention of a 9x21mm model, but unsure of any real details.
I do believe I will order a few Extar guns. Think they are the same guys that started Plum Crazy.


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Re: Best caliber for pistol cal carbine?

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I have a marlin camp 9, love that rifle
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I’m thinking about one of these Glock lowers next. It’s also a local company.
http://www.kearms.com/store/p/846-Bille ... ipped.aspx
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Looked into Extar and they are not a AR pattern gun meaning most AR parts will not work including buffer tubes. That would suck after registering as a SBR and now no AR stock can be used unless you make a new tube to their thread pitch and specs to put a stock on. I think this is a stupid mistake they made.
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Had one of those Extars come through a few weeks ago. Interesting design, but not one that I think I would purchase. The whole thing is made out of polymer except for bolt & barrel, even the fire control group and takedown pins... I don't feel too confident in a polymer hammer and trigger, and some parts just seem like they would break under heavy/harsh use.
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10mm or .44 Mag would be great pistol caliber rifle cartridges.
When I was a young teenager, my uncle had a old Ruger .44 carbine he used on Alabama game. We would walk out behind his house, past his kennel of three hunting dogs, and shoot cans with it.
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StarQuester, are you sure the Stribog will be roller locked? Where can I find more info on this?
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Jack Dupp wrote: June 9th, 2018, 8:35 am StarQuester, are you sure the Stribog will be roller locked? Where can I find more info on this?
The version of the Stribog being currently imported is not delayed blowback, but just a simple blowback.
GrandPower does make a delayed blowback, but it is not approved for US importation yet.

I'm trying to find one in stock with out the darn brace kit.
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This is how I interpret "pistol caliber carbine"
Marlin model 1894 in .357 Magnum.
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I like 9mm personally. My AR9 SBR is my favorite gun. I've done 45 too, that was fun. Right now I'm working on a 10mm carbine build.
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As another mentioned the best "caliber" would be 10mm as it gives the most increase with a longer barrel.

I currently have a HighPoint carbine in .45 and a lever action in 44Mag
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Thanks, Tim.
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^ I love the Mini-Uzi and yes it is an IMI. They are heavy compared to more modern weapons platforms but so very reliable. I am so old school that I am preschool and the Uzi is just one of those guns that makes me smile.

I did throw down the big bucks for the B&T 45 as well. I love it. It is lighter than my HK SP5K 9mm. It came with a rock solid SB Tac brace which will get me by until the SBR gets sorted with the gubermint tax. The B&T eats all projectile types and weights without a hiccup. Recoil is nonexistent with the buffer setup they use. My only beef is the cost of the metal magazines at a C Note a pop but all in all it is just what I wanted in a PCC / PDW.
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Re: Best caliber for pistol cal carbine?

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I would suggest getting one in the same pistol caliber you most often carry as a sidearm and if possible one that will use the same magazines. There are probably lots of options - i haven't looked recently.
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I am building a ar15 pistol chambered in 9x25 dillon with a 11 inch barrel. It's a gas gun not blow back.
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