6.5 Grendel opinions???
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6.5 Grendel opinions???
Thinking of building one with an 18" barrel. I have heard everything from its a tack driver to its just so so. Like to hear from some with experience in this caliber??? Worth it?
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Re: 6.5 Grendel opinions???
The 6.5 Grendel was designed to slightly improve on the 7.62x39 ballistics while being compatible with the AR platform.
Given that I wouldn't expect match type accuracy out of the cartridge.
Given that I wouldn't expect match type accuracy out of the cartridge.
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Re: 6.5 Grendel opinions???
I should find out in a couple weeks. Just need to decide on optics for it.
The only time I've seen people be "meh" about it is when using shitty/cheap ammo.
The only time I've seen people be "meh" about it is when using shitty/cheap ammo.
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Re: 6.5 Grendel opinions???
I know a lot of people in the predator hunting world use it with great success.
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Re: 6.5 Grendel opinions???
I have an 18" Grendel now and have owned several others, any good quality barrel will deliver 1 moa or less accuracy in my experience when using quality ammo. The round is far superior to the old Russian round. With even an 18" barrel the bullet stays supersonic past 1000 yards. The most info in one place for 6.5 Grendel shooters is at http://www.65grendel.com
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Re: 6.5 Grendel opinions???
The Grendel's case is based on the 7.62x39 case, but only in a roundabout way. That's where any similarity ends. It has more in common with 6 PPC. The Grendel is a very accurate cartridge (unless you're shooting Wolf, which is just blasting ammo). Think of it as the little brother of 6.5 Creedmoor- while the velocity and, therefore, range is lower, it fits in a small-frame AR and performs very well out of short barrels.Steve_In_29 wrote: ↑July 1st, 2018, 9:30 am The 6.5 Grendel was designed to slightly improve on the 7.62x39 ballistics while being compatible with the AR platform.
Given that I wouldn't expect match type accuracy out of the cartridge.
I was set on building a 12" Grendel pistol, but, between 5.56 and 6.5CM, my requirements are covered. The Grendel is a very capable cartridge within its performance envelope.
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Re: 6.5 Grendel opinions???
I've got an 18" and 12.5" 6.5 Grendel. With good barrel (Satern), ammo (123gr Lapua Scenar) mine is sub MOA at 100. My 12.5" (Faxon barrel) is good to 800 meters, you could shoot it further, but energy is dropping pretty low at that point. I shoot Wolf in the 12.5" to 300 meters when out having fun (definitely cuts down on the cost), but you definitely lose out on the accuracy/precision potential of the caliber. When I shoot the Lapua in the 12.5", it is on par with the 18" from an accuracy/precision standpoint.
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Re: 6.5 Grendel opinions???
I NEVER said the round was "based" on the x39.lew wrote: ↑July 2nd, 2018, 10:55 amThe Grendel's case is based on the 7.62x39 case, but only in a roundabout way. That's where any similarity ends. It has more in common with 6 PPC. The Grendel is a very accurate cartridge (unless you're shooting Wolf, which is just blasting ammo). Think of it as the little brother of 6.5 Creedmoor- while the velocity and, therefore, range is lower, it fits in a small-frame AR and performs very well out of short barrels.Steve_In_29 wrote: ↑July 1st, 2018, 9:30 am The 6.5 Grendel was designed to slightly improve on the 7.62x39 ballistics while being compatible with the AR platform.
Given that I wouldn't expect match type accuracy out of the cartridge.
I was set on building a 12" Grendel pistol, but, between 5.56 and 6.5CM, my requirements are covered. The Grendel is a very capable cartridge within its performance envelope.
The simple fact is that the STATED goal of the round's designers was to "better the performance of the 7.62x39 and allow the new cartridge to be used from an otherwise standard AR and mag ".
Re: 6.5 Grendel opinions???
I built a Grendel a few months ago. I have a 24" 1:7, and its not a 300 yard gun. Its a 600 -1100 yards gun. 18" barrel is not prime for this round. 20"+ is what you want to do. I have a Vortex Gen1 PST 6-24x50 FFP scope on mine. This AR rifle is definitely meant to reach out ant touch someone with superb accuracy. You will also want to be sure and roll your own rounds for this gun cause the store bought ones suck a$$ and are very expensive unless you by crap ammo and then you get you pay for. Unlike the bolt action in the same caliber you are limited as to what fits in the magazine as far eliminating your free-bore. I used BLC-2 and CFE to start but they were not exactly tac drivers so now i am using IMR 8208 XBR with 123gr SST bullets bet depending on what you want to do with the rifle you can go down to 90 gr bullets. I am using Starfire brass and they are $125 for 250 peices (new)
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Re: 6.5 Grendel opinions???
Well "slightly improve" is hardly correct either, as the Grendel is way more accurate and effective at longer ranges.Steve_In_29 wrote: ↑July 2nd, 2018, 1:01 pmI NEVER said the round was "based" on the x39.lew wrote: ↑July 2nd, 2018, 10:55 amThe Grendel's case is based on the 7.62x39 case, but only in a roundabout way. That's where any similarity ends. It has more in common with 6 PPC. The Grendel is a very accurate cartridge (unless you're shooting Wolf, which is just blasting ammo). Think of it as the little brother of 6.5 Creedmoor- while the velocity and, therefore, range is lower, it fits in a small-frame AR and performs very well out of short barrels.Steve_In_29 wrote: ↑July 1st, 2018, 9:30 am The 6.5 Grendel was designed to slightly improve on the 7.62x39 ballistics while being compatible with the AR platform.
Given that I wouldn't expect match type accuracy out of the cartridge.
I was set on building a 12" Grendel pistol, but, between 5.56 and 6.5CM, my requirements are covered. The Grendel is a very capable cartridge within its performance envelope.
The simple fact is that the STATED goal of the round's designers was to "better the performance of the 7.62x39 and allow the new cartridge to be used from an otherwise standard AR and mag ".
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Re: 6.5 Grendel opinions???
I have 6.5 Grendel in an 18” barrel and while I think it’s a great rifle, if I had to do it all over again I would go with the 6mm version. I think the 123’s are a bit large for the case, but from what I’ve seen the 6mm 107’s are just about perfect.
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Re: 6.5 Grendel opinions???
Well I took the plunge and ordered the 18" barrel and parts. As soon as I get it up and running I will give a review. I went with the Brownells barrel that came with a matching headspaced bolt. I have high hopes for this one.
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Awesome! It's certainly a cool and versatile little cartridge.
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Re: 6.5 Grendel opinions???
I am a big fan. I really like the reduced recoil over my old 308, availability of cheap blaster ammo (wolf) and the biggest plus is you can use an existing built AR lower. My 24" barreled upper has turned in sub moa groups at 100. Here's one of my load development targets from last year, 95yds, 123gr AMAX over 27gr AR-Comp. Outer circle is the 1st 4 shots, inner is the second.
Just built a 12" pistol a few months back. A quick sighting in at 70 yds using a foam block, red dot and 6x magnifier netted me this (Wolf on left, Hornady Black on right). I need to get out my rifle rest and see what the pistol can do.
Just built a 12" pistol a few months back. A quick sighting in at 70 yds using a foam block, red dot and 6x magnifier netted me this (Wolf on left, Hornady Black on right). I need to get out my rifle rest and see what the pistol can do.