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I've recently moved back to AZ and was planning on going to the crossroads show this weekend. - are there better shows? Looking to add to my collection and havent found a good source for older guns since backpage shut down.........

The gun shows are still the same crap shoot they've been for some years now. I don't go there expecting to find deals on the tables, although sometimes there are. The real reason to go there is to observe the dudes walking around with stuff they're trying to dispose of. And now, as the economy begins to unravel again, it might indeed be good hunting ground for stuff.

But unfortunately, gun shows are no longer like they were a couple decades ago. And with the new envigoration of the war on guns, I expect there might be a whole new population of ATF agents and Bloomberg agents prowling around.

Feal wrote: ↑September 8th, 2022, 7:18 pm I've recently moved back to AZ and was planning on going to the crossroads show this weekend. - are there better shows? Looking to add to my collection and havent found a good source for older guns since backpage shut down.........

Older guns? What styles, types, and calibers?? RJ will be having a show in a few months, best to wait and save your money if you're into milsurps and old stuff.

Have a great, gun carryin', Kenpo day

Clyde

Suck My Glock wrote: ↑September 8th, 2022, 7:30 pm The gun shows are still the same crap shoot they've been for some years now. I don't go there expecting to find deals on the tables, although sometimes there are. The real reason to go there is to observe the dudes walking around with stuff they're trying to dispose of. And now, as the economy begins to unravel again, it might indeed be good hunting ground for stuff.

But unfortunately, gun shows are no longer like they were a couple decades ago. And with the new envigoration of the war on guns, I expect there might be a whole new population of ATF agents and Bloomberg agents prowling around.

Yep, the good ole days of gunshows is gone, most likely forever. I found some great deals on guns, mags, ammo, and all other sorts of accessories, online for half of what they get at the shows. Pawn shops have been very good to me over the last few years, until Covid, got weird, still weird market, but not like it was.

Have a great, gun carryin', Kenpo day

Clyde

i like the deep purple of the charcoal blueing - prelock smiths, also like the steel target guns. would really like to get my hands on a smith 952.

whats the big deal with the bloomberg/atf agents? are private sales not a thing anymore?

Where can i find more info on the RJ show?

Feal wrote: ↑September 8th, 2022, 8:40 pm i like the deep purple of the charcoal blueing - prelock smiths, also like the steel target guns. would really like to get my hands on a smith 952.

whats the big deal with the bloomberg/atf agents? are private sales not a thing anymore?

Where can i find more info on the RJ show?

Private sales are still legal,...for now.

The Bloomberg agents are prowling around with hidden cameras trying to record anything that helps their agenda of portraying gun ownership as bad. They look for anything questionable to report. They try to engage in conversations that would play well when twisted and edited. Basically doing the same thing Veritas does, but without ethical character. As for ATF, well...now that they have a green light under Biden pull their shenanigans, they need examples of why free access to guns is bad, so they are looking for examples. They prowl the gun shows hoping to find people dealing without an FFL or otherwise supplying the underworld. If they played by the rules, that wouldn't be such a big deal. But weaponizing of the FBI has shown breaking the rules is ok. So I expect the ATF to soon start acting even more rogue than they are already known for.

I'll tell you, THIS is the show to attend so that you can see for yourself. It's usually nice in the center 'ice-rink' area....and anywhere from tolerable to downright swampy inside the rooms at the north and south ends. Quick access to real restrooms, and generally there are places to sit that can be found.

So i stopped by today and have mixed feelings - 10$ for parking and 18$ to get in the door? I was there at ~ 10 -12:30. I was surprised to see so many people at that price. Inside it was busy but not too crowded. There was only one table with transferables and a handful with the guns that i like - older smiths etc.... but they were very proud of them -

saw an excellent condition hk p7 private party that was 1850 which isnt a great deal but not too bad. I ended up seeing 2 browning hi power competitions that i ended picking up. I think i overpaid just because i havent seen anything interesting in a while. Actually i know i over paid because the "unfired" one that i bought had aftermarket grips and the magazine disconnect removed already - oh well another life lessons.

i seem to recall a show at the fairgrounds that was mostly transferables and collectables - is that still around?

Feal, congrats on the pair of FN's. You may be talking about December's SAR-sponsored show? Usually there's one whole building where all of the full-auto and other big toys get set-up for show-'n-tell and sale.

Pretty meh show. Got 3 P225 mags for $60, that was my big score.

So few private sellers walking around anymore. Not sure I will bother with any more ice house shows. At least for the bigger shows that are partially outdoors, you can buy an overpriced beer and burrito and people watch. That at least makes it a decent excuse to hang out with a friend or two.

I went on a whim yesterday, happened by a road sign reminding me it was going on and had a $1 off coupon in my wallet from having picked up some ammo the day before. I hadn't been to one in about five yrs. I really enjoyed it, went with the attitude that I was spending $27 to see a lot of cool stuff, maybe get some ideas for future AR or Poly80 builds, etc. I came home with one nice auto knife and some good gun porn memories. I think it was money well spent.

Same vendors in the same spots selling the same overpriced items they've had for the past dozen or so shows. For me, unless it's the SAR show, it's just really an expensive way to buy beef jerky.

I like to go to every show and hunt for Ak goodies. I always have a great time even if I just find a stock. I usually score a gun or two at every other show. December is sar show and hands effin down best show of the year. Everyone who bitches about the shows are correct about it all. Still worth if you weren’t able to buy surplus when the gettin was good. End of the day just depends on if you wanna sit inside and Google stuff or go out and look at it while dealing with dip shits and stanky and people.