kenpoprofessor wrote: ↑April 24th, 2024, 6:56 am If any of you guys think John Corriea of ASP is worth a s***, get his real history, I think you might be shocked at just how inept this guy is.

Have a great, gun carryin', Kenpo day

Clyde

pneuby wrote: ↑April 26th, 2024, 12:26 pm

kenpoprofessor wrote: ↑April 24th, 2024, 6:56 am If any of you guys think John Corriea of ASP is worth a s***, get his real history, I think you might be shocked at just how inept this guy is.

Have a great, gun carryin', Kenpo day

Clyde

WhiteDragon wrote: ↑April 24th, 2024, 8:30 pm
Lol! There was a time that many here thought old John Correia was the last Coke in the desert. Glad to see y'all came to your senses. What was that Ed Parker saying? "Time will either promote you or expose you."

Guys, guys.... I have no skin in this game, either way.
I have met the cat and heard a lecture(Free, mind you...no $ involved.).

I have to ask you, one or both....

Please provide some content in support. Link/s, personal anecdotes, juicy hearsay reports...SOMETHING.

kenpoprofessor wrote: ↑April 26th, 2024, 1:50 pm

pneuby wrote: ↑April 26th, 2024, 12:26 pm

kenpoprofessor wrote: ↑April 24th, 2024, 6:56 am If any of you guys think John Corriea of ASP is worth a s***, get his real history, I think you might be shocked at just how inept this guy is.

Have a great, gun carryin', Kenpo day

Clyde

WhiteDragon wrote: ↑April 24th, 2024, 8:30 pm
Lol! There was a time that many here thought old John Correia was the last Coke in the desert. Glad to see y'all came to your senses. What was that Ed Parker saying? "Time will either promote you or expose you."

Guys, guys.... I have no skin in this game, either way.
I have met the cat and heard a lecture(Free, mind you...no $ involved.).

I have to ask you, one or both....

Please provide some content in support. Link/s, personal anecdotes, juicy hearsay reports...SOMETHING.

We met with him a few times when he was doing Kenpo at some other guy's place many years ago. We went there to "enlighten" them with information. They said they had a "gun guy" didn't want anything to do with us. We met, f*** useless. They were certainly amazed at what we were doing with Kenpo, but, their Chief Instructor warned them off of us, said we were just trouble, so they started ignoring us. Their "Chief Instructor" is also useless, but, he was the one giving them rank, and oddly enough, they were boosted in rank in a very short time, you know, to keep them paying. Skip Hancock is the Chief Instructor's name, talks a lot, does little, and has few skills. He was around when Parker was around and got some rank from him, so that's his "claim to fame". My instructor was Parker's protege', and another guy named Huk Planas. They both teach very differently, but they have the same information, and they're very choosy about who they give the most to. Mind you, I trained with Mr. Parker as well, in the W. LA studio, and got rank from him as well, but it doesn't mean squat if you don't have the information to back it up.

Have a great, gun carryin', Kenpo day

Clyde

XJThrottle wrote: ↑April 26th, 2024, 3:34 pm

So, he was "wax on", and you're more "wax off"?

BigNate wrote: ↑April 26th, 2024, 3:59 pm OK - I'm going to chime in here... just because I can't leave well enough alone.

* First - I have exactly zero knowledge regarding John Correia's relative competence as a martial artist... It sounds like he's probably gotten in with a school that is pretty commercial - that's too bad. On the other hand - whether he's good or not - if he's actively working on something - he spends more time on the mats than I do these days... (not proud of my nearly totally sedentary lifestyle... but it is what it is right now).
* Second - I have very little knowledge regarding his relative competence as a technical firearms instructor - I've never attended any of his in person stuff (paid or unpaid) and I've never been instructed by him or evaluated his shooting prowess. I've watched very little of his "technical" content (re gun drills etc.). What I have heard him say, that I appreciate, is along the lines of "if you are going to own and carry firearms it is irresponsible to do so without working on your craft... you have to spend time practicing, shooting, and becoming competent if you are going to be a responsible gun owner." With that - I fully agree.
* Lastly - I do find his Youtube channel useful in terms of its ability (and purpose - I think) to cause me to think through scenarios, and to take "mental reps" regarding defensive use of force scenarios. I find that he advocates for a very similar philosophy to mine in these areas (what I see as a legally and morally healthy view of when and how the force escalation continuum should work).

So - is he a bit of a self-aggrandizing blowhard? You could probably say that... but you could probably say that about just about everyone who has created a significant market presence in the social media space... and at least his stuff drives critical thought...

My 2 cents...

WhiteDragon wrote: ↑April 26th, 2024, 8:42 pm

Suffice to say that just about anyone who's anyone in the industry knows JC is a poser clown. I was there when he started- the Navy guy turned videogame store manager turned gun-guru. I encouraged him and advised him to stay in his lane when it comes to use of force videos. Well, he went to all these Mas Ayoob schools and gotten all these certs but never has carried or used a gun gun for a living. He started making judgements on LE UoF videos. I, again, reminded him to stay in his lane bc he's never worn a badge, gone to an ACTUAL LE academy -and no, community College is not a valid academy- nor has he served as a Firearms or UoF instructor in any LE capacity. He pretty much told me and several other well-known instructors to pound sand and blocked us.... fast forward a couple years and he's a running meme and his page isn't nearly as busy as it used to be.

Yes, he bills himself as a certified expert witness and if he was on the stand, any lawyer worth his salt would eviscerated his background pretty easily. He touts having watched over 5,000 hours of UoF incidents so he's a UoF expert.... riiiiight, I'm sure I've watched over 5,000 hours of Pornhub. Does that make me a human sexology expert?

Anyway, he's discredited himself thru his own antics. His shooting ability is ok (since very few people have actually seen him shoot or fight) judging from the few vids he's put out actually shooting. I must say, lately he's been looking a bit rough and not all there... Anyway, buyer beware.